Thursday 16 August 2012

[discussion_vu] Fwd:----------------- [HCI] I'thikaf exactly for 10 LAST days *



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Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Subject: [HCI] I'thikaf exactly for 10 LAST days *
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Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakaathu hu,
 
Dear brothers and sisters,
As a true finder, I would like to have replays for the below coats  from Hijri Committee of India.
From that what I understand that seeing the hillal on 29th is not a practice of Prophet Sallalaahu alaihi wa sallam and the Sahaba Raliyallahu Anhu. Because they came to know the total number of days in the particular month at least 10 days before the end of the month!!!???
 
"Islam is Simple, Prefect and Complete.  Islam requires one to observe all the phases of the month and after a few months of practice, one can easily say, in the first quarter itself,  whether the current month is of 29 days or 30 days.  Bedouins of Saudi Arabia are still doing this and those who have doctorate are groping in the dark for the INVISIBLE  hilaal on the last day of the month.  What a pity !!
 
 
The Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) and the Sahaba (RA) were proficient in such predictions.  If not how they (RA) observed the I'thikaf exactly for 10 LAST days?  
 
 
One can calculate the LAST 10 days only when one knew about the end day of the month, is it not?
 
Without knowing whether the month ends on 29th or 30 th, if one starts I'thikaf on 20th day of Ramdhaan and if it happens to be a month of 30 days, one would have observed it for 11 days !!  If one starts on 21st day of Ramdhaan and if it happens to be a month of 29 days, one will observe it just for 9 days !!
 
 
Is there any hadeeths, even a Daef one, which says that the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) ever observed I'thikaf  for 9 days or 11 days ???  Is there any reports which say that the Sahaba (RA) observed it for 9 days or 11 days because they found out about  the  the start of Shawwal after seeing the hilaal ???
 
 
If so please provide them.  
 
 
If no hadeeth is there, tell us how the Prophet (Sallalaahu alaihi wa sallam) and the Sahaba (RA) observed I'thikaf  EXACTLY for  last 10 days. "

Wasalam,
Nabeel

It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty) and measured out stages for her: that ye might CALCULATE the number of years and the count (of time).  Nowise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness.  (Thus) doth He explain his Signs in detail for those who understand.  

Quran: 10-5


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அவன்தான் சூரியனை ஒளியுடையதாகவும், சந்திரனை ஒளியை பிரதிபலிப்பதாகவும் ஆக்கினான். ஆண்டுகளின் எண்ணிக்கையையும், காலக்கணக்கையும் நீங்கள் அறிந்து கொள்ளும் பொருட்டு(ச் சந்திரனாகிய) அதற்கு மாறி மாறி வரும் பல படித்தரங்களை உண்டாக்கினான்; அல்லாஹ் உண்மையை கொண்டேயல்லாது இவற்றைப் படைக்கவில்லை - அவன் அறிவுள்ள மக்களுக்குத் தன் அத்தாட்சிகளை விவிரிக்கின்றான். (10:5)
 
சூரியனும் சந்திரனும் கணக்கின்படியே இருக்கின்றன. (55:5)
 
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