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Re: [discussion_vu] is it possible???? aftaar party

Zaroori nahin koii aik group hi karway, city wise arrangement ho sakti hay agar itnay loog ho jaain bayshak mukhtalif groups say hoon, khaas toor par result kay baad :)

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:48 AM, I FEEL YOU <mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Thanks brother

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mera to koi group ni ha jan...ma na group walo ko kaha ha k wo arrange karain aur asa lazmi huna chahiye.....

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:46 PM, █▓▒░Arslan Hashmi░▒▓█ <arslan.anjum89@gmail.com> wrote:

hahahahahahah well said I FEEL YOU

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, I FEEL YOU <mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Walekum Asalam g possible hy bus ap aftari do phr dekho sub pochanch jain gy

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Xikandar .....boy <bc070400922@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Konsa campus hy apka ? city b btao ?

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[~>VU-P!nD!<~] Spring 2011 Semester Result Announced

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Re: [discussion_vu] is it possible???? aftaar party

Thanks brother

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mera to koi group ni ha jan...ma na group walo ko kaha ha k wo arrange karain aur asa lazmi huna chahiye.....

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:46 PM, █▓▒░Arslan Hashmi░▒▓█ <arslan.anjum89@gmail.com> wrote:

hahahahahahah well said I FEEL YOU

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, I FEEL YOU <mc080403484@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Walekum Asalam g possible hy bus ap aftari do phr dekho sub pochanch jain gy

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Xikandar .....boy <bc070400922@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Konsa campus hy apka ? city b btao ?

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[discussion_vu] Re: ::: vuaskari.com ::: Aftaar party....

phr konsa group aftaar party dy raha ha.....

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM, █▓Binish_Awais█▓ <greyferry@gmail.com> wrote:

iftar party thread must be considered as closed
out of station cant acess to party so it is not possible

no further mails in this thread will be entertained thanks
thread Closed

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM, mc090409022 Masood Akhtar <mc090409022@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Can anyone send me notes of MGMT625 Change Management on payment. If anyone interested please contact me.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:58 PM, BooGie Man -- Coming to Get You! <mc090406368@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Wasay Aftar parti sch ma honi chahye.. Result k bad bi chlay gi yar.. bnda ro k enjoy to kr leta ha na.. ic se gam bi kam ho jaey ga result ka

HEHHEH

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, mc100402870 Zaka Ullah Sara <mc100402870@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

bhai g hum ready hen kasy arrange krna hai kia karna hai mgr jo bi karna hai 20 ramdan se pehly krna hai.....

zakaullah sara
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Cute 470 <atifcute470@gmail.com> wrote:

AOA,

is it possible k koi group tamam vu fellows ki aftaaar party karwaye,,,,plz arrange for it by any group....give every one his/her suggestions on it......kisi group ko to asa kuch khaas karna chahiye.......

AFTAAR PARTY

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[~>VU-P!nD!<~] Re: { Ɖαre αrզαм vu } Fwd: ullllllllllllllll ہر ایک چہرے پہ دل کو گُمان اس کا تھا

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..::VU-Pink::.. Re: (VU-Study-Corner) Re: ::: vuaskari.com ::: my email to Registrar and Rector about VU

Dr. Naveed A. Malik ka reply aaya hai aisay

Dear Umair,

Thank you very much for your analysis and suggestions. We will look

into all aspects carefully. However, please note that the biggest

factor contributing to the change in admission figures was the

introduction of the 3.5 year MBA requirement by the HEC. The decline

in the number of applications due to this factor alone, was reported

by all insitutions such as COMSATS etc.

Also, please do not pay too much heed to rumours about the VU degree.

Our graduates are making it to top-tier universities both home and

abroad for further studies and are also being accepted by the

industry. One factor can be that a large number of students have now

graduated, some with with marginal CGPAs (not like you). When this

happens, they naturally have a hard time getting employemnt etc. but

this is no different than a graduate with a poor CGPA from other

universities.

We will seriously analyze your statements about the exam patterns.

Best regards,

Naveed

main nay reply keea aisay...

Sir, According to you

"Our graduates are making it to top-tier universities both home and abroad for further studies and are also being accepted by the industry"

I totally agree with this statement.

Regarding your statement regarding lowering of admissions in VU from past two or three semesters. I partially agree with you. Since, HEC changed MBA to 3.5 years, then I think, this should have only affected admissions of MBA, but not other study programs. But every study program of VU has been affected by the number of admissions in past two or three semesters which means there is indeed some problem with VU system.

Sir, I came to know from many VU students that they faced problem in internship when some organization refused to provide them internship because according to them they don't offer internship to VU students. Many students when applied for job were said that we don't accept VU degree. All this happened after change in exam pattern in Fall 2008 semester. We never heard about any such instance before that. Now, there must be reason behind such sudden change that many organizations and banks refused offering jobs and internships to VU students which earlier did use to offer VU students jobs as well as internships. We need to exploit those reasons and correct them so that VU students never face any problem again in getting jobs and internships in any organization.

Regards

Muhammad Umair

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jubi <syedabuhanzalah@gmail.com> wrote:

any response from them???

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:

Assalam o Alaikum

Dear friends, main nay rector sab aur Registrar sab ko yeh email ki hai VU ki degree value k hawalay se.. aap bhi parhain aur comment karain.... reply aaya tou aap se zaroor share karoon ga...ok..

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Assalam o Alaikum

Respected Sir,

Now-a-days, we frequently hear that market value of VU Degree is low and many organizations don't offer jobs to VU students, don't give internship to VU students, etc. etc.

Different people will give different reasons about why VU degree value is low. As a student who has studied last 8 semesters in VU, I have my own thoughts why VU degree value is low. In fact, it was not low, but suddenly, due to some change in VU system, degree value got low. I will explain here what that change was.

Sir, up to Spring 2008 semester, VU had long paper pattern in which 85-90% questions were long questions and only 10-15% questions were MCQs based. However, when in Fall 2008 semester, the number of students who took admission in VU increased too much, VU changed the paper pattern. Now, the question arises why paper pattern was changed when long questions paper pattern was adopted by VU ever since its existence. I think, that VU exam department thought that it will be almost impossible to check such a large number of assignments, mid-term exams and final term exams with existing staff. Therefore, we change the paper pattern to MCQs. MCQs will be checked by computer and this way we will be able to serve the students. This change in exam pattern lead to the degradation of VU Degree. Now-a-days, we see that most students prepare MCQs from past papers and as a result pass the exam without or with much less effort. Even, many students just attend MCQs both in mid-term and final term exam and still manage to pass the subject (They don't do it with all subjects, just in some selective subject in which they feel too much difficulty).

Sir! Everyone knows that when there was long questions paper pattern, no one used to say that VU degree has low value. We did not hear any single such instance in which a VU student was said while applying for job that we don't accept VU Degree. We never heard of any instance in which some organization denied a VU student for internship. But now-a-days, we frequently hear about such instances.

MCQs paper pattern may be good with some theoretical subjects BUT MCQs paper pattern can never ever be a good paper pattern for subjects in which we need to solve numerical questions like Accounting, Statistics, Mathematics, Programming and many others. No one can become a better Accountant, Statistician, Mathematician or a programmer by just solving MCQs.

Sir, we see that admissions in VU are lowering from past two or three semesters. When, VU used to provide quality education then admissions in every semester were increasing. Now, they are lowering which indicates that VU education system has some fault in it.

Sir, I want to see VU at the same place where it was when there was long questions paper pattern An era when no one used to degrade VU. No one used to say that we don't offer jobs to VU students, no one used to say that we don't provide internship to VU students and so on.

Sir! MCQs paper pattern have some many faults in it. I mentioned some of them above. With MCQs paper pattern, many students get marks that they actually don't deserve. We even see that those students pass in exam that even don't know ABC of some particular subject in which they appear. They do it by just solving MCQs.

Sir, when there was long paper pattern, only those students passed the exam that used to study, but very sad to say that with this MCQs paper pattern, those students also pass who do not study.

Sir! You, me as well as every VU student will love to see VU's degree value much higher than what it is today. To do so, I think, VU should change the paper pattern to long questions in the upcoming semester. Not only change the paper pattern, but also change the mode of exam and exam timing. In long questions paper pattern, mid-term online exams was 1:30 hrs, final term 2:30 hrs, mid-term offline exam 1 hr, final-term offline exam 2:00 hrs.

Sir, I think that when No. of students increased too much in Fall 2008 semseter. Wrong step was taken by VU to change the exam paper. VU should have increased number of staff at that point.

Sir, it is my humble request to you to understand the reasons due to which VU's degree has low market value and then try your best to remove those reasons so that we can again see VU at the place where it was 3 or 4 years back when no one degraded VU.

Your Student

Muhammad Umair

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..::VU-Pink::.. Re: ::: vuaskari.com ::: my email to Registrar and Rector about VU

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:

Assalam o Alaikum

Dear friends, main nay rector sab aur Registrar sab ko yeh email ki hai VU ki degree value k hawalay se.. aap bhi parhain aur comment karain.... reply aaya tou aap se zaroor share karoon ga...ok..

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Assalam o Alaikum

Respected Sir,

Now-a-days, we frequently hear that market value of VU Degree is low and many organizations don't offer jobs to VU students, don't give internship to VU students, etc. etc.

Different people will give different reasons about why VU degree value is low. As a student who has studied last 8 semesters in VU, I have my own thoughts why VU degree value is low. In fact, it was not low, but suddenly, due to some change in VU system, degree value got low. I will explain here what that change was.

Sir, up to Spring 2008 semester, VU had long paper pattern in which 85-90% questions were long questions and only 10-15% questions were MCQs based. However, when in Fall 2008 semester, the number of students who took admission in VU increased too much, VU changed the paper pattern. Now, the question arises why paper pattern was changed when long questions paper pattern was adopted by VU ever since its existence. I think, that VU exam department thought that it will be almost impossible to check such a large number of assignments, mid-term exams and final term exams with existing staff. Therefore, we change the paper pattern to MCQs. MCQs will be checked by computer and this way we will be able to serve the students. This change in exam pattern lead to the degradation of VU Degree. Now-a-days, we see that most students prepare MCQs from past papers and as a result pass the exam without or with much less effort. Even, many students just attend MCQs both in mid-term and final term exam and still manage to pass the subject (They don't do it with all subjects, just in some selective subject in which they feel too much difficulty).

Sir! Everyone knows that when there was long questions paper pattern, no one used to say that VU degree has low value. We did not hear any single such instance in which a VU student was said while applying for job that we don't accept VU Degree. We never heard of any instance in which some organization denied a VU student for internship. But now-a-days, we frequently hear about such instances.

MCQs paper pattern may be good with some theoretical subjects BUT MCQs paper pattern can never ever be a good paper pattern for subjects in which we need to solve numerical questions like Accounting, Statistics, Mathematics, Programming and many others. No one can become a better Accountant, Statistician, Mathematician or a programmer by just solving MCQs.

Sir, we see that admissions in VU are lowering from past two or three semesters. When, VU used to provide quality education then admissions in every semester were increasing. Now, they are lowering which indicates that VU education system has some fault in it.

Sir, I want to see VU at the same place where it was when there was long questions paper pattern An era when no one used to degrade VU. No one used to say that we don't offer jobs to VU students, no one used to say that we don't provide internship to VU students and so on.

Sir! MCQs paper pattern have some many faults in it. I mentioned some of them above. With MCQs paper pattern, many students get marks that they actually don't deserve. We even see that those students pass in exam that even don't know ABC of some particular subject in which they appear. They do it by just solving MCQs.

Sir, when there was long paper pattern, only those students passed the exam that used to study, but very sad to say that with this MCQs paper pattern, those students also pass who do not study.

Sir! You, me as well as every VU student will love to see VU's degree value much higher than what it is today. To do so, I think, VU should change the paper pattern to long questions in the upcoming semester. Not only change the paper pattern, but also change the mode of exam and exam timing. In long questions paper pattern, mid-term online exams was 1:30 hrs, final term 2:30 hrs, mid-term offline exam 1 hr, final-term offline exam 2:00 hrs.

Sir, I think that when No. of students increased too much in Fall 2008 semseter. Wrong step was taken by VU to change the exam paper. VU should have increased number of staff at that point.

Sir, it is my humble request to you to understand the reasons due to which VU's degree has low market value and then try your best to remove those reasons so that we can again see VU at the place where it was 3 or 4 years back when no one degraded VU.

Your Student

Muhammad Umair

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